DoseNation 28: John Lear

Neural spikes are what someone from the outside would objectively see, but in no way are those spikes the same thing as the adventure you had last night in your dreams, or in the DMTverse that explodes in front off you with a single puff. There is direct correlation, yes, but one you explore with monitors, the other with your own inner awareness. All I am saying is that you cannot reduce one realm to the other. The subjective can be explored in its own terms (mysticism, shamanism, psychotherapy), just as the objective must be explored in its own terms (empirical science). To say its all consciousness (Idealism) is to collapse the universe into the purely subjective side, the same way that to say its all material is to collapse the universe into purely material surfaces without inner depth (Wilber calls it flatland). I personally take the nondual stance: there is an objective, empirical universe, but there is also an interior realm of Consciousness that is self-evident with some basic introspection. And those two sides are part of the One Universal coin.

@Eugene, we did not want to confuse the topic with DMT. Also, is it hard for you to believe that the "novel universes of reality" you create while you are dreaming are just neural spikes in the cortex, or are you haunted by the notion that they are real places? The brain uses the same mechanisms to create the DMT space, so they are both of the same origin, you!

BTW - I have seen those pesky elves that claim to be God and the creators. They are also known liars and deceivers.

Far out! Very interesting ...I'm surprised DMT was not at least mentioned. I once had a DMT experience where after the entities showered me with love saying something like "we are your friends," I asked them directly, "so what is God." After they laughed at me and ridiculed me for what they made me feel to be a totally ridiculous question, they eventually answer, "we are ofcourse, you silly human!" I still have a hard time reducing the totally higher dimensional self-transforming synesthetic apparently sentient information of the DMTverse to a mere "serotonin disinhibition and cross-excitability between feedback-coupled assemblies in the brain." But I guess that's another conversation all together. I would be fascinated to hear what you REALLy think about the content of this interview James. As always, great thought producing show boys!

This discussion seriously goes bonkers at the 14 minute mark. Enjoy.