Ketamine floatation tank death first on record

You guys realize that the likelihood that he just leaned his head back and inhaled water is drastically more likely to the point of insanity then him some how transcending our reality using a hallucinogen,

I suppose if you need more proof then that you can just read the actual article where it informs you that his lungs were filled with a surprisingly large amount of water, hence why the cause of death was drowning rather then transcendence...

Using a powerful hallucinogen that is also a powerful sedative in or around water in complete isolation is very dangerous, each one of those things individually would put you at an increased risk for bodily harm

Jim was an idiot - can you imagine people being that stupid?

John Lilly was a scientist and had medical supervision, doctors and nurses on standby each time. Can you imagine just how stupid you need to be to do this.... I feel sorry for guys that set the floatation centre up, they closed after this because of one selfish idiot.

I saw the coroners report he actually drowned on his own vomit.

I've used floatation tanks literally 100's of time and believe me you don't need drugs to enjoy it - I've stood on the edge on infinity and I've travelled a million miles without moving a muscle - it is the most powerful and profound experience and in far superior to any drug either in the tank or not.

Jim was a very experienced drug user (although less so as he got older) who new exactly what he was doing and had experimented with K and floatation tanks before.

This was just a very sad acccident.

I hope that amazingdrx is correct.

He is still greatly missed by his friends.

The really sad thing is that the fairly new floatation center he floated at, closed their doors shortly after the death. He took more then just his own life that day.

People should save the drugs for after the float. Floatation therapy already slows down the body, drugs are not needed and should never be used in a tank.

You'd think that anyone conducting such an experiment on themselves would have the wisdom and foresight to have the experience monitored, in order to avoid such mishaps. Guess not.

Good point: some years back they found a bloke sat by a tree in Loch Lomond (no indications of drugs) who had apparently just left his body too. It does happen. In fact, it used to be the only way to 'die': you slip this skin and ascend/change frequency with a more subtle body; but that's another story.

It's a pity that article repeats the tired old lies that Ketamine is a horse tranq......it's a HUMAN anaesthetic. I guess it's possible maybe some vets have obtained it to use on larger animals? But generally the confusion arose because some folks like to take vet meds recreationally(I presume because they are like lithium to the power of a lot, ie like very extreme downers because animals require way more sedation than people do before they are knocked out, esp. big animals) and there was some link with PCP to vet meds.
Anyway, the thing about K is that when it is used a psychedelic then you're actually using it at less than hospital doses, or you would just become unconscious and not have the dissociative out-of-body effects.

You actually have to aspirate a *very* large amount of salt water to drown. Much less so for fresh water. Weird, but that's how the body works. I'm inclined to believe he just "left" his body and didn't return. It's happened before. And in an isolation tank, whacked on a huge dose of ketamine? I'd be surprised if it _didn't_ happen!

This also almost happened to Lilly once (he wrote about it in one of his books, "John Lilly, so far..." I think. Had his wife Toni not stumbled upon him at the right moment, he would have been the first.

I know James has written about mixing water and K in his articles, but this is something one has to be really, really careful with; in fact, I'd say they're pretty much contraindicated.

he may have been the first in a floatation tank..but D.M. Turner died in his bath tub after injecting K..and slipped beneath the water...so not really the first to drowned on K...