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Classical drug use: Greek and Roman drug freedom

The Greeks and Romans used opium, anticholinergics, and numerous botanical toxins to induce states of mental euphoria, create hallucinations, and alter their own consciousness; this is an indisputable fact.

This fact has been intentionally ignored and covered up by historians. Recreational drugs have been translated out of classical literature in the same manner as bawdy sexual references were until recent decades.

Posted By oldpigeon at 2009-11-17 12:33:09 permalink | comments
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Svillagedoctor. : 2011-09-01 08:24:46
Norco may cause physical or psychological dependence if used for a longer period of time or regularly. It also causes tolerance and addiction and may not work effectively. It should never be shared or given to a person having a history of drug abuse y addiction as it can be fatal. It has many side effects which includes symptoms like nausea, vomiting, estreņimiento, headache, confusion, feeling light headed, fainting, shallow breathing, slow heartbeat, anxiety, loss of appetite, unusual thoughts and behavior, blurred vision, dry mouth, somnolencia, dizziness, stomach upset and seizure or convulsions. It also causes allergic reactions like hives, difficulty in breathing, swelling of lips, face, throat and tongue. It can even impair the thinking and reacting ability of the person.

Gwyllm. : 2009-11-22 14:25:51
Dear Actaeon,Well, sorry you took it the way you did. Is English your first language?

"Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out" neither mentions, nor implies "Sedate". Believe me, or don't. It was and is a call to become aware of the societal games, and leave them behind. You really should study more.

And, I don't see Diana's part in this...

Actaeon/Guest. : 2009-11-21 18:39:56
I love you guys. I'm starting to think if people start repeating everything they hear about the NWO, it will become an inevitability whether or not it currently exists in its alleged form.

If the "master plan" is truly to reveal themselves and demand an acceptance of their rule, I'm playing into their hands and encouraging a defeatist mentality. That's not the right mentality. I also sometimes think a lot of people, like Alex Jones, are unconsciously playing their endgame.

Anyway I guess the best thing to do is let me fellows fight for the liberties they feel they need against the threats they recognize; if we are battling a nonexistent force after all, our struggles and efforts will only form a necessity for the beast we fear.

So in the end it doesn't matter if I am right to fear the NWO, I am wrong to spread that fear. In the end I am simply devaluing your liberty. All you and I need is universal support for our liberty, just remember that even if I and people like me are this easy to brainwash, nobody's propaganda is going to convince me to pick up a gun or tell lies, it's the other way around.

No lying to anyone, no violence to anyone, no fear of anyone.

If I can convince people that the world can end without their consent, it will end. I guess in the end it comes down to love; sure, doctors could be encouraged to euthanize, but will we make them hate us enough to do it? Armies can be provoked into genocide; only if we let them hate us, so it took me a long time to learn this, but love is more important than truth, no matter what the truth is. And I love you guys. :-)

guest : 2009-11-20 17:26:36
Oh and Potter Dee, daffodils can be made into wine, like dandelions. Less work than growing grapes but less reward, too.
guest/Actaeon. : 2009-11-20 17:23:59
Interesting void'd, you are talking about a video I haven't seen. I haven't heard about any "aliens." As soon as I even approach a set of facts as being related you guys try to paint me as one of those reptilian-believers. I don't want to believe it either!! I almost had a nervous breakdown when I started hearing things about the masons and the "illuminated ones"... I couldn't listen to any of my music without feeling like I was steeped in lies except System of a Down, and they write about this very thing, made me feel worse!
I don't want you guys to feel hopeless like I do.

Man you guys got so hostile, so fast. My original post wasn't attacking any of you. Now I will take a moment for that. We all enjoy free speech, ever wonder why we're supposed to protect it? None of you are showing any propensity to free thoughts, you are all group-thinkers, realize that as soon as my thoughts fell out of line with your own, you clamped down on me like a high school history teacher. And you style yourselves as the freest of the thinkers? Open your minds!

Oh and to this: "I don't recall Leary ever encouraging anyone to sedate themselves."

turn on, tune in, drop out.

Potter Dee. : 2009-11-19 15:21:46
So yeah...daffodils? Anyone got ANYTHING on this bit?
void'd. : 2009-11-19 09:05:04
a video on the internet isn't exactly considered "facts." I've seen that video too and the guy who was giving that speech was also talking about aliens and shit too. Not to mention, he was giving his "lecture" to a "crowd" of people that consisted on the cameraman and two fat guys in foldout chairs. Not exactly scholarly material.
Gwyllm. : 2009-11-18 19:37:56
Dear Guest,

I think you misunderstand the word Cognitive.

Also, again, provide citations for your "facts".

guest : 2009-11-18 17:23:59
oh and also the all-seeing eye of horus was the sole object placed at the 9-11 memorial. its presence was not doted on nor acknowledged by the well-vetted media anchors, who merely droned on about the past and the future. soldiers marched around it while cameras from choppers focused squarely on it, no symbolism of the ring was mentioned. It is an old NWO sign, they believe they are descended from jesus and the pharaohs. it was placed there to be seen by those who are looking for it and to crush their souls as the endgame begins.
guest : 2009-11-18 17:21:22
the beatles were brought over by them too. they only killed lennon when he went from pro-drugs to anti-war, the latter of which have been provoked and funded by the same family for generations as they secretly bankrupt entire nations into slavery

your debt is at 12 trillion now? obama is a free mason. those are two facts.

guest : 2009-11-18 17:19:38
"I don't recall Leary ever encouraging anyone to sedate themselves"

turn on, tune in, drop out

guest : 2009-11-18 17:18:28
whether or not it's true the possibility should be a STRONG reminder to us, "cognitive" liberty is important but NEVER let it take a back seat to your real liberty or you are a slave.
Jimmy Joe Johannassen. : 2009-11-18 13:11:14
I don't recall Leary ever encouraging anyone to sedate themselves. In its mind expanding way, LSD is the farthest thing from a sedative or escapist drug.
"if the lies don't make you quit, the truth will." What lies? Quit what? What truth?
Potter Dee. : 2009-11-18 10:02:34
Anyone know anything about the daffodils mentioned?

Guest: Oh god, the Illuminati are coming to get you!!! What is with people and this pathetic, tired conspiracy theory garbage?

Gwyllm. : 2009-11-18 02:05:48
Citations Plz.

Wit a little investigation into any of these ideas that you are putting out, you'll quickly find that none of them have any basis in fact.

"Someone" told you Leary was bought off by the NWO? What is this based on, and how was this assumption arrived at?

Have you ever heard of CND (Peace Symbol reference) There is no tie into Nazism what so ever. Pagan symbol of death? Would you like to flesh that out, and what that actually means, or relates to CND, and the anti-nuclear & peace movements

Sandoz has never been a a part of I.G. Farben, and if they actually had, what are you trying to imply by that?

Cognitive Liberty is the basis of all Liberty. Without it, no other actual freedom exist.


guest : 2009-11-17 21:10:00
ive been told leary was bought off by the NWO to encourage us to sedate ourselves, and that the peace sign is based on a pagan symbol of death; an upside-down cross with broken arms. used on nazi graves. made me wonder about those trips and how free my thoughts really were. if the lies don't make you quit, the truth will.
sandoz's free lsd samples going to universities were mentioned, and i did recently hear elsewhere they were part of I.G. farben... never thought of sandoz that way but everything I heard was based on facts we don't dispute here.
whether or not it's true the possibility should be a STRONG reminder to us, "cognitive" liberty is important but NEVER let it take a back seat to your real liberty or you are a slave.

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