Bouncing Bear Botanicals raided

On Feb 4th the FDA and local police raided Bouncing Bears Botanicals and arrested its owner Jonathan Sloan. He is currently charged with 8 felonies.

Current charges against Jon are:

- Unlawful manufacturing of controlled substances: Dimethlyltryptamine (DMT)
- Unlawful manufacturing of controlled substances: Mescaline
- Unlawful manufacturing of controlled substances: Lysergic Acid Amide
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Mescaline
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Dimethlyltryptamine; Chacruna; Illinois Bundleflower; Epena; Cebil Seeds.
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Bufotenine, Epena, Chaliponga, Cebil Seeds, Colorado River Toads.
- Unlawful cultivation or distribution of controlled substances: Lysergic Acid Amide, Morning Glory Seeds, Rivea Corymbosa.
- Unlawful possession of certain drug precursors and drug paraphernalia: Plastic jugs and filters used or intended for unlawful use to manufacture, cultivate, plant propagate, harvest, test, analyze or distribute a controlled substance.

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somnabullist. : 2010-08-15 19:33:27

this is a degragation toward our so called system as spiritualality is decreased & technology is increased for govermental control. Maybey they want to make sure pharmaceutical companies get the.....fair share. Screw everyday humanity & HEALING, Money rules.

TIME. : 2010-08-13 20:33:43

TO GET REAL JOBS COWARDS.

Do you think this guy should get sent to jail longer than murderers?

The DEA is out of control.

Disgusting . : 2010-08-06 19:17:16

The drug war is a perversion on the soul of society. These morons need to get real jobs.

Duncan. : 2010-06-18 22:23:08

You also gotta think about all the people who are now known buyers of these products and maybe looked into due to the confiscated buyers info buy these corrupt pigs

KC. : 2010-04-26 21:35:30

damn!!!! this is BS!!! burn healing trees...illegal? i dont think so. i knew this had to be coming...ppl need to keep their ideas secret, or before you know it, thinking will be illegal!!! legal vendors getting raided??? should private vendors be worried?

erocx1 : 2010-04-16 00:37:19

*Update April 14, 2010

I am ecstatic and some what relieved to see this great injustice taking steps in the right direction. Lets not forget this terrible incident and be prepared to fight any attempts to change law in favor the Inquisitions ability to incarcerate good people, steal their property, children and by many other means, destroy the lives of people who do no harm to society. Wishing Jon and his family all the best and I hope he sues the hell out of the abusive authorities that did this to him.

Cindy. : 2010-04-11 08:30:17

They dismissed the charges on April 7
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Apprarently they still have a $900,000 drug tax against him though, even though they are not charging him with anything.

Idiots on Capital Hill. : 2010-03-22 10:56:30

Message to the peons:

We control the horizontal. We control the vertical.

Thanks for electing us, by the way. Our strategy of running all crappy candidates so that you'll vote for the "lesser of evils" is working really well! We benefit 'cause we're all about control (it's the only thing that really gives us a woody), and you benefit by getting the evil you asked for.

It's a win-win situation! Drinks and fags on us!

Shame. : 2010-03-21 01:14:43

It is too hard for me to even read this. All I want to do is curse the people, laws, and agencies that think they are creating a better America. THEY ARE NOT. Message for you idiots up on capital hill. Your rich days are over and quit shoving what you think is justice in our face.

"for the evolving human spirit"

Anonymous. : 2010-03-18 08:13:20

Of course this is a mean-spirited action, meant to screw over someone who should be allowed to pursue these things in the matter he sees fit.

It is a miscarriage of justice, but the law isn't always about justice.

In general, the people in the entheogenic community--people who pride themselves on transcending cultural programming and who pride themselves in being conscious and aware--have their head in a big fucking pile of sand when it comes to being "conscious and aware" of the legal climate of their actions. They see legal grey areas when none in fact exist.

If the people in this community were as conscious and aware as they think they are, they could spend a few hours carefully reading the Controlled Substances Act, instead of just repeating Internet lore regarding the legality (or lack thereof) of plants. And being aware, they would understand what they've read.

And they would throw up.

But I doubt anyone reading this thread will bother doing so. It's much easier to pat one's self on the back for being aware than it is to use that awareness.

B. : 2010-03-17 19:10:00

PR and trumped up charges to steal an honest man's life's work. Take your witch hunt elsewhere.

Anonymous. : 2010-03-17 07:17:45

"He did nothing illegal."

This is not the opinion of the few lawyers I've spoken with concerning the arrest, but of course, that question will ultimately be decided in court, assuming it goes to court for resolution (I will imagine that a plea-bargain/guilty plea will be entered, so the resolution will be imperfect, at best).

I'm curious as to which area of law your legal expertise lies within.

Leslie Ferrier. : 2010-03-16 19:55:08

He did nothing illegal. By the way, why aren’t cigarettes illegal and why do we, as in the US government, give out pills like they are candy? The government is so poor right now that they are finding ways to make things illegal that really aren’t just to pad their pocket. Wow, I am so proud to be in America THE LAND OF THE FREE…. What a joke. I can’t believe people and their stupidity, and narrow minds that run around like sheep enforcing laws that they do not think to questioned. The government is f-ed up and doesn’t want anyone to think for themselves. Have you ever noticed a crack head gets caught and goes to jail for a couple of months but then a man who has LSD goes to prison for years? The government wants to stay in control and if there are drugs out there that make you think then you may lose your ability to comply; they do not want this. That is also why ibogaine is illegal in the USA. If we had no methadone clinics because people cured their heroin addiction in 32hrs by ibogaine then how would the drug companies make money? Think about it. They wouldn’t. There are pills to help people get off of pills and then there are even more pills that doctors make people think they need but really don’t. The government and the drug companies work hand in hand. What a sick, sick, pill happy country. I hate it here. NOTHING IS TRULY FREE. It amazes me that you can get 9 felonies for doing nothing illegal. I wonder if the Stupid government killed the endangered bufo alvarius frogs.

whatsisname. : 2010-03-13 10:07:40

Maybe we should have a collective and coordinated session. Lets practice what we preach. Phyconauts unite! Sign the petition and donate a little as well. Peace.

Fight for our rights!. : 2010-03-12 04:10:35

Help Jon clear his name and let our Government know we are watching!

Sign petition now!
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bobus. : 2010-03-11 12:06:20

is BBB still running?

lmfao.... anything to get and stay at the top of the us pyramid. : 2010-03-07 16:52:26

alright so its aggreed apon, upon conviction, riots will break out, lawsuits will be filed and the us whitehouse will be ciezed. the president of the united states and his loyal staff will stand public trail for possession of lysergic acid amide, all former presidents and staff will be convicted of the same. we get a new president...well techniquely old.... Bill Cliton the Pimp III, and get a surplus economy going again. PS. THANK YOU BUSH, YOU STUPID INCOMPIENTENT MOTHER !@#$%^, Vote for the next New Unusable Body that claims "Its time for Change" ... as the old saying goes, Everyone Knows When Its Time for something; However, Noone Knows How To Get There. Too Many Chiefs and not enough indians.(and the people that do know how to get there, are too damn poor compared to all the inherited rich pricks to get anywhere) Speaking of which.... WHERE THE HELL IS MY PAYMENT FOR US LAND, I'm INDIAN Bish, You stole all this from us.... hell, I'll take 1,000 dollars back then, times it by inflation.... you Still Owe Me 1.2 Trillion dollars...and thats just me... USoA, stands short for US over Americans... i think it is time for change though... I think in order for you to have any public office or postion, you should first have to live below the poverty line for 10 years... if you obtain a high position, you must first experience the vice-versa lowest position, however, I'm still waiting for a president that grew up poor as hell in the united states with government assistance...lmfao...they'd never make it... anyone ever heard of comunist manafesto?... Eventially.... All the Rich peeps will die out because noone at the bottom can support them.... sadly... the poor will die out first.... but just like every great rise, there will be a great fall... honestly though.... I'm just waiting for someone to hit the red button on the nuc's.

Zhenya. : 2010-03-04 13:01:40

There's something wrong with this country.

martin. : 2010-03-01 15:51:28

It is time for a tea party my friends. I really thing the time has come. The constitution says we have the right to liberty, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness. I cannot see that when the government takes away your house or life savings for a simple tax error how that is constitutional. Nor in this case that the FDA froze this persons bank account. And then illegally raid this place. Also that these people jail our countrymen for victimless crimes like drugs and then take away their right to vote. Fellow countrymen it is time to have some balls and do something. by the way, I personally knew John Sloan and he is a great guy and an honest businessman.

alvarius. : 2010-02-19 13:57:21

Sorry, just posted reply to Guest:"these plants.............etc" without my name. Hope you will post it anyway with my name.

guest : 2010-02-19 13:41:41

Guest, the plants and plant products (and toads) are not SPECIFICALLY illegal, but contain substances that ARE specifically illegal. This is a gray area which would probably remain gray (in other words, law enforcement and law makers would not pay any attention to or even be aware of these substances) were it not for certain websites and people posting videos on youtube showing how to use them to get high, and telling where to get them. This attention-getting behavior is only asking for trouble; and that is what BBB got, not their own fault; the blame lies with the youtube poster. The quickest way to get law enforcement to come down on a substance, and get new laws passed against a substance (or existing laws reinterpreted) is to have just one kid learn about this stuff from irresponsible posters and then get in trouble with it. Or even simply have a parent check what they are looking at on youtube (one of the most visited sites on the net, especially by kids!), see these videos, freak out, and start some kind of "Save The Children From Evil Drugs!" movement. Look what happened to salvia in many states, and k2 in Kansas! The news media loves to get ahold of this stuff! That's where all that "toad-licking" crap started. We have known all about these entheogens for DECADES, but certain internet idiots are going to get all of these benign and beneficial substances made ILLEGAL if they do not listen, wise up, and STOP IT!

guest : 2010-02-18 21:27:38

He had nothing illegal; none of the plants he sold are illegal--when was the last time you heard about morning glories being illegal, unless you are in Arizona where they are considered an invasive spiecies. the drug war rages on.

Bufo. : 2010-02-18 19:14:07

That Jefferson quote is great! How appropriate!

Pissed off Friend of BBB. : 2010-02-18 18:14:41

Here' a couple of my fav's from the Bible.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
~Biblical~ - Genesis 1:29

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
~Biblical~1 Timothy 4:1-3

Pissed off Friend of BBB. : 2010-02-18 18:12:04

WTF. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said.(You guys remember him right?)
"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
~Thomas Jefferson.

Tyrants man, Tyrants.

Anonymous. : 2010-02-18 09:57:02

"Seems like the feds jumped the gun on this one they had no right to bust anyone for something that is not even illegal yet.."

First of all, he was busted by state officials, not the Fed.

Secondly, have you ever read the Controlled Substances Act? Much of what he was selling was illegal, and assuming that Kansas law reflects federal law, and the case is pretty much air-tight.

You'll see a lot of posturing on both sides, and then a plea-bargain...

One of the things that has always frustrated me about the "entheogenic community" is its willful sticking-of-head-in-sand, seeing legal shades of grey, when in fact the situation is fairly monochromatic.

someone. : 2010-02-18 02:35:54

Seems like the feds jumped the gun on this one they had no right to bust anyone for something that is not even illegal yet just goes to show that the government does not give a damn about anything but it's own crooked agenda damn those natural herbs we need to keep the good shit like alcohol flowing the dea is pathetic.

bill. : 2010-02-17 21:40:30

Wow, this is some fucked up shit. Its crazy how the government will do anything to ruin something they don't agree with. Fuck the Police man...

cuddybear130. : 2010-02-14 15:12:04

To charge Jon (Papa Bear) with manufacturing and distributing controlled substances? I am so pissed off right now! As a freedom-worshipping American who believes that it is man's God-given right to use the gifts of nature in order to alter one's consciousness, or for any purpose that does not harm others, I feel that this infringement on our rights is unconstitutional and immoral. Since I have no problem paying $25.00 for botanicals, I will gladly do so in support of an innocent and honest American entreprenuer. Hopefully others of you feel the same. Ua mau ke ea o ka `aina i ka pono....live free or die!

HBWR. : 2010-02-13 17:48:05

BEWARE Neurosoup! This person is ruining it for everyone, either intentionally or out of plain stupidity!

Basil. : 2010-02-13 14:44:55

things like this just re-enforce my opinion that we need to arm ourselves against the government thugs.
we gotta start fighting back...

Free. : 2010-02-13 08:53:12

Remember; keep a low profile! Not the typical way to run a business, but a business like this, it's a must! Postings of trip reports and bong hits on Youtube are the fastest way to attract attention, resulting in new laws, and more busts (are you listening, Krystle?). Those who need you will find you. We are all behind you and watching closely. Stay strong!

Bufo. : 2010-02-13 08:36:48

Jon, hang in there! This is a major missuse of the law as it is written. If they succeed in this, all bets are off and no one is safe. Just a shame you have to pay for a legal defense. Frivolous lawsuits (those that can't succeed but serve only to bankrupt the defendant) are a common method of harrassment. I agree with EOTW; watch the links, partnerships, etc. Those who know, KNOW! Stick to disclaimers and just sell product. We already know what to do with it. How about a defense fund? Lots of us would gladly help defend freedom for all our sakes. Remember, folks; We're all in this together! (Remember "Entheogen Law Review"?)

Bufo. : 2010-02-13 08:13:32

Any connection to Neurosoup would worry me. Has anyone wasted money on Crystle's books? What a joke. And the snitch rumors.................

Clark. : 2010-02-13 07:50:46

Bouncing Bear has NEVER advertises "legal highs" has suggested here.
And has nothing to do with the Neuro Soup girl who posts those videos.

Just because you see something out there doesn't mean Bouncing Bear had anything to do with it.

Phil Soden. : 2010-02-11 14:50:36

So why did this happen under this administration, anyway. You would think that Electing Obama would have stopped the police state from progressing. So much for hope and change. A person can't even practice their religion anymore.

rage against the machine. : 2010-02-11 12:31:52

This is a police state.
Fuck this shit! All these assholes need a heavy dose of psilocybin so they wake up from their ugly existence. Then they all need to get real jobs.

Peace.

EOTW from DF. : 2010-02-10 22:56:05

Well, our thoughts, prayers, magickal workings, meditations etc are all with you, but did you ever stop to think about how you advertised your products? Sure you paid lip service to the "not for human consumption" thing, but then provided links to sites explaining exactly how to prepare the products for human consumption. And the partnership with NeuroSoup? Bad mojo no matter how you look at it, especially considering there are still rumors that the doe-eyed princess that appears in all their videos explaining things like how to milk a colorado toad, or how to use DMT rectally, was a snitch in the whole Pickard-Apperson case? Unsubstanitated rumors yes, but in this game if you think they're out to get you they are. I hope you recieve true justice, get everything returned to you and the pigs that did this get fired, but please, WATCH HOW YOU ADVERTISE!!! In the words of the immortal Dr. Thompson, "Today's pig is tomorrows bacon!!"

Gastronomicon. : 2010-02-08 20:10:43

I just hope the Feds don't find out about Walgreens. Man, they got some serious shit in there.

IDEA: How 'bout we set up a coalition of the willing? For every raid the DEA does that is totally uncool, we raid a pharmacy? We'll call it the "High for an High"... or something else. I'm too messed up to think of anything witty right now.

Cody. : 2010-02-08 12:25:09

I hate this shit. I don't even feel safe in my own country... WTF is legal anymore? Thought the law was supposed to be in a way everyone understands without uncertainty... Out of %uc%ing hand...

faith. : 2010-02-08 10:58:17

Its called fear you guys that's how the land of the free rolls! they will do anything to cause fear so they can turn that into control and of course they want to control everything! that is why certain drugs like alcohol and man made shit is legal! because its bad for you and good for them. The whole system is wrong! and will stay that way until we ask for a change! I mean how can we have so many different languages while living in the same planet! that says a lot about this planet!

poster. : 2010-02-08 09:42:09

This is an issue of civil rights.

ian. : 2010-02-08 03:18:39

tricocerous cacti, available at wallyworld, home de pott, lows, nursery stores and gas stations, legal ornamental cacti. contain bairly mesurable ammounts of mescaline (.03-1.0%)

morning glory seeds and hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, same as above all legal flowering plants contain small ammounts of lysergic acid amide (.002-.014%)

mimosa bark used to make natural dyes and soaps also legal contians small ammounts of dimethylrtyptamine (.02-1.3%)

pots, dirt and fertalizers.... come on this is a f**king witch hunt by those colsed minded religous pollititions in that state. jon only got raided for the incence blend K2 prior to the bill making it illegal passed. it only passed the house in kansas but has not passed the senate....

double charges for the same thing!? so when you have a cactus in your house that you bought at wally world you can be charged for possesion and manufacture/cultivation of a controlled substance!? i know half of these legal guy's wifes have a sanpedro cactus growing and all of them have morning glories growing on their property. i want to see charges brought up on them, walmart, home depot, lowes, all exhisting garden nursery stores in the us and every citizen in the us for having one or more of these plants in their household or on their property, for that matter the prez can be charged because i know there are morning glories on the white house property..... sickenly unbeliveable... and we are suppose to be living in a free country when you can go to jail for the grass growing in you back yard, yes your kuntuky blue contains dimethyltryptamine, and for that matter so do you in mesurable ammounts, you might not have ever used the highly illegal substance in your life but news flash it is produces by the pineal gland in your brain! so if i get it right EVERYONE on this planet is guilty of possesion and manufacture of DMT.... my prayers are with you jon you know that many of the people you know from the net are here and will fight for your... our cause

hankhill. : 2010-02-07 23:50:55

yike what is this stuff anyway just a bunch of weeds fda ba

Lulu. : 2010-02-07 20:52:57

This vendor puts all the other decent vendors in a bad light. The way he has advertised "legal highs' is revolting.You all can feel sorry for him, but for this man, its all about the $$$$$.

Eion. : 2010-02-07 19:13:43

Stay strong. You are righteous and righteousness is the only truth there is.

erocx1. : 2010-02-07 19:05:31

A message from Jon

Hi Everyone,

Just a quick note letting everyone know I am out and thanking everyone for the support they've been sending my way. I really appreciate it. I can't talk much about anything. I imagine everyone knows what my view of these ridiculous charges is already, though.

I am not allowed back in the building yet as part of my release agreement. I just now saw those pictures of my office and the warehose for the first time. And... I'd just like to say to all the people who have asked many times "Could your office be any messier?" now you know. Yes, it could.

For the people asking about donations, we have a defense fund set up already that my family has contributed to. I'm not exactly sure how it works and don't really feel right asking for donations. I've always prided myself on my independence, so it's a bit weird suddenly needing help and not being in control of my own life. I, at the very least, want to make sure if all the money isn't needed or we are able to get damages from the government, that contributors would be refunded.

My main concern is for my family. It's pretty F'd up when the government can seize the money from my 6-year-old-son's savings account to pay a drug tax for something his father hasn't even been convicted of yet (and isn't even illegal). Innocent until proven guilty? Land of the Free? Man.... This is all so insane..... I just don't want anything else to happen to them... Stopping the rant now. Probably already talked too much. Just wanted to say thanks to everyone.

Oh. All the products that weren't seized in the raid will still be shipping as normal and all orders should be caught up on Monday.

Matt. : 2010-02-07 18:50:46

Good luck Jon. I'm also having legal troubles right now from bullshit charges. I feel for you. It's great your family is there for you. I know it makes all the difference in the world. Having someone remind you that you’ve done nothing wrong is invaluable.

Best Wishes :)

ChuckSteak. : 2010-02-07 13:00:44

Damn...the lesson is don't sell anything remotely tied to "drugs". Every time a legal high outlet gets popular they get raided. This shit has got to end.

Gordo. : 2010-02-07 12:48:40

What was that about the end of the drug wars?

Anunimuse. : 2010-02-07 09:47:59

Was he extracting anything; DMT is in all our brains right now, but Mescaline and LSA's are a different story. He got royally screwed by the FDA. I saw this comming but it came hard and swift.

guest : 2010-02-07 09:00:20

Disgusting. Here's hoping for jury nullification in his case.

stuff. : 2010-02-07 08:25:41

wow getting arrested and charged with things that are completely legal...great

several more vendors have taken their mimosa off their sites as well

Kyle. : 2010-02-07 03:38:00

You have got to be kidding me. Those charges are all BS. Are they going to start raiding Home Depot and shit too?

jeff. : 2010-02-07 00:52:33

holy fuck