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Podcast: Globalhuasca Wisdom

Rak Razam interviews Dennis McKenna at a retreat in Peru:

A seminal interview with Dennis McKenna, Ph.D on the evolution of ayahuasca and the entheogenic movement and the imminent tipping point on planet earth the movement parallels. In which experiential journalist Rak Razam quizzes Dennis on his role as a scientist and a leading ayahuasca researcher, while Dennis waxes lyrical on bio-piracy, the proliferating business of shamanism in Peru and around the world, and the urgent need for integration of the plant teacher experience in people's everyday lives to truly make a difference. Is the sacrament of ayahuasca becoming commercialized? As pharmahuasca -- and the startling development of ayahuasca in a pill form -- spreads beyond the vine itself, is the wisdom of globaluasca transcending its Gaian roots to connect with a new generation without the plant dogma? Is the future a religious, compartmentalized Entheogenic Evangelism? Or will lodges transform into "psychedelic monasteries" training plant Jedis? Its been ten years now since Dennis' brother Terence passed on, and Dennis deconstructs some of his theories, from Timewave Zero to the Singularity and provides a critical analysis of the 2012 phenomenon and the unfolding Archaic Revival...

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Pat Cundall. : 2011-05-08 15:19:31
A very relevant interview, I wish I could have heard it earlier! Touched on alot of things that I've been pondering, namely the commercialisation of ayahuasca ceremonies, the reduction from raw plant medicine to 'pharmahuasca' and the differences this may entail.

Towards the end, it was very insightful hearing Dennis' comments about Terrance's ideas - how different two close brothers can be, yet still share such a hopeful vision of the future!

I had always found the 2012 phenomenon and the Timewave a little hard to swallow, but of course, some of the best ideas have started this way and one must go into these things with an open, if a little circumspect, mind.

Also, if anyone is still not aware Dennis is trying to get support for a book he has proposed to write about his life with his brother, donations are half way there and if we can get the message out to others to support this with even a small donation we can all see that this project gets off the ground.

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Anonymous. : 2010-05-10 14:57:44
"LoL, Dennis putting Razam and the movement in its place!"

No, I'd say it was more respectful than that, but I think Dennis has some very important things to say in regards to some of the less critical thinking that goes on today (2012, etc.)

dreamdust. : 2010-05-10 09:13:49
LoL, Dennis putting Razam and the movement in its place!
bill. : 2010-05-09 16:59:54
Very interesting podcast. (I hope the interviewer eventually rigged up some sort of mic-stand--what a photo! Nice interview, though, it sounded very comfortable.)

It was great to hear an excellent critical analysis of how some things might be going right, and some things might be going wrong in the entheogen movement (maybe not a good name for it?). I liked the stress on taking care of the biosphere, rather than taking things in more religious, dogmatic, or corporate directions. Excited to hear an explicit call for us to keep and use our rationality, and exercise skepticism towards the more irrational teachings, and to be wary of "boot camp[s] for space cadets."

About 27 minutes in, he says some very good things about the dangers of evangelism in regards to these substances and practices, pointing out how it provides opportunities for people to get and abuse power. As for those who choose to "latch on" and become "followers," McKenna says, "...the demonic bargain you have to make to become a follower is to give up your own critical faculties." I think this is something that is becoming important, and I expect we're going to see some self-correction in this regard. Great stuff.

Like McKenna, I too am a "pre-tribal" person, and I'm equally unsettled that younger people might sometimes show enthusiasm for ideas like putting implants in their head, and extreme/invasive interconnection with information. Of course, looking at the grandest scope of human history, I am *also* "post-tribal," and it would make sense if our sped-up times soon found a place beyond tribalism again.

(By the way, the accompanying blurb from the interviewer's website puts quotes around the term "psychedlic monastery" and refers to "jedis". These are actually terms introduced into the conversation by the interviewer and, while McKenna goes along with the interviewer's line of thinking at that point in the interview, I think his own preferred description of these things would probably leave out the religious/super-hero overtones, based on the basic thrust of the ideas he shares with us throughout this interview.)

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