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The Last Interview with Alexander Shulgin

Vice Magazine's Hamilton Morris went on a pilgrimage to interview Sasha Shulgin and filed a long report, which is not really an interview. Here is a small chunk of random conversation:

When I arrived at Shulgin's home in Lafayette, California, he was peacefully sitting at the kitchen table. I walked through the sliding glass door, greeted him, and then embraced him, which produced a euphoria far greater than that of MDMA and a time dilation more profound than the effects of 2C-T-4. We disengaged and, without pause, he began to riddle me: "Can you name the two words in the English language that begin with two consecutive a's?"

I thought for a moment before answering, "Aardvark is one?"

"Yes, good, and the other?"

"I don't know, I can't think of another."

He bent down his head and said in a low whisper, "Aardwolf."

"Aardwolf?" I asked, and with that he had already risen from his chair and shuffled into the hallway to retrieve a giant yellow dictionary, which he dropped onto the kitchen table and pushed toward me. Sure enough, it's there, and on his prompt I read the definition aloud:

aard-wolf \-'wu-lf\ n, pl aard-wolves \--lvz\ [Affric, fr. aard earth + wolf; akin to OE wolf wolf--more at WOLF] 1: a hyenalike quadruped of South Africa having a striped coat, five-toed forefeet, and a distinct mane, feeds chiefly on carrion and insects (as termites), and is usu. placed in the Hyaenidae though formerly separated in another family (Protelidae). 2: an (extremely) unexpected nonpsychedelic-related thing, which confuses me [see more at I'M NOT PREPARED FOR THIS].

"OK," Shulgin said, satisfied. "We've solved that problem. But now, for example, do you know what a lowena is?"

"No, what's that?" I asked credulously.

"It's the opposite of a highena."

"Aha!" I urinated a microliter in my pants and changed the subject. "I brought you a peach pie. Would you like a slice?"

He answered the question with another question: "How many numbers are to the right of the decimal point in pi?"

"Just one." I had nervously confused right and left, but Shulgin immediately adjusted his line of questioning.

"OK, so what is the value of pi? 3.14159265" But how many numbers can appear in front of the decimal point in pi or in any rational number?"

"Potentially an infinite amount of numbers."

"Right, and how large is this infinity?"

"Excuse me?"

"How large is this infinity?"

"That's a difficult question to answer," I replied.

"I'll give you another question and let you do a comparison: How many numbers are there to the right of the decimal point? One? An infinite number? Not only an infinite number but an infinitely larger infinite number."

"How can? OK, wait..."

[Thanks mj!]

Posted By jamesk at 2010-05-17 11:27:10 permalink | comments
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platelicker. : 2010-08-15 14:53:46
i think the headline is meant to say something like "The last time I interviewed..." (ie. The latest, or In the last,...)

just bad copywriting more or less.

wonderer. : 2010-05-26 08:20:58
WHAT IS ALEPH-1?!!!
teleomorph : 2010-05-22 01:17:34
Great Read.
jamesk : 2010-05-18 21:34:32
Yes, Sasha likes to tell corny jokes. It is his last interview because he says no more interviews.
jack tripper. : 2010-05-18 21:31:40
why call it the "last" interview with Shulgin? that's so misleading...
Bill. : 2010-05-18 13:28:23
This is the first I've heard Aleph-1. Is there any more info on this besides what's in the article?
FriendlyCanadianStoner. : 2010-05-18 07:17:50
Maybe he meant "Latest Interview"? Because I did freak out a bit too when I saw the title!
amazingdrx. : 2010-05-18 04:16:49
It should be noted that Sasha has a completely abominable sense of humour. I have no idea how Ann has put up with it for all of these years. Though, perhaps that's why she loves him...
Robai. : 2010-05-17 20:52:54
Hamilton - Love your work over on VBS.TV!!

Sasha and his wife - they are SO lovely and wonderful people in person.

NOW - Stop writing things like "Last Interview" as a title please, my heart skipped a beat when I read that one!

tonx : 2010-05-17 19:57:57
the title of this post had me a bit freaked out.
Gwyllm. : 2010-05-17 19:15:13
Ah, thanks!
guest : 2010-05-17 15:43:07
"Last Interview... Isn't that a bit premature and ghoulish?"

no, read the article - its because Ann Shulgin said it would be Sasha's last interview.

Gwyllm. : 2010-05-17 13:20:29
Last Interview... Isn't that a bit premature and ghoulish?
Daniel Williams. : 2010-05-17 12:22:22
Sasha was kind enough to review the MDMA chapter in my book, The Naked Truth About Drugs, and write a nice blurb (as did Albert Hofmann) for the dust jacket. We met for the first time in Basel during the 2006 International LSD Symposium/ 100th Birthday Celebration for Albert Hofmann.

Sasha is a true visionary...

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