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AA, Bill Wilson and LSD

Many of you probably know already that Bill Wilson, founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, was an avid supporter of the use of LSD to treat alcoholism. I found this biographical article online (in Modern Drunkard magazine, "Standing Up For Your Right to Get Falling Down Drunk Since 1996", which I have never heard of before now but which seems quite relevant itself) which is brief, catchy and fascinating. It reminds me of several interesting and widely applicable points, not the least of which is that the popularity and longevity of any movement, whether a cult, a philosophy, or a therapeutic technique, ultimately depends as much on the charisma of the initial promoters as it does on any qualities of the core idea. Just think what the world of addiction treatment would be like today if Bill Wilson hadn't been such a character!

This is my favorite part of the article:

One of his therapeutic journeys lead him to Trabuco College in California, and the friendship of the college’s founder, Aldous Huxley. The author of Brave New World and The Doors of Perception introduced Wilson to LSD-25. The drug rocked Wilson’s world. He thought of it as something of a miracle substance and continued taking it well into the ‘60s. As he approached his 70th birthday, he developed a plan to have LSD distributed at all AA meetings nationwide. The plan was eventually quashed by more rational voices, and a few years later the Federal government made the point moot by making the drug illegal. (That Wilson’s plan was shot down is probably fortunate. LSD is a beautiful thing, but nothing sounds more horrifying to me than a roomful of chain-smoking, frightened, needy drunks tripping their heads off in the basement of the local Y.)
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Linkflat. : 2010-07-19 18:34:00
Wow! Now I understand how one can have the Spiritual Experience (burning bush) that I so desperately seek. My experiments with LSD back in the 60's and early 70's produced the Spirtual mind experiences that we all seek in our acholic recovory. lmfao. Wilson and Leary, what a "Dream Team".
Leo Miller. : 2010-06-14 17:32:49
I believe that either in the book Not God: A History of AA by Ernest Kurtz, or in a lecture by Kurtz about the book he pointed out that Bill Wilson did in fact try LSD with the help of Timothy Leary, M.D. He experimented with this to see if it - LSD could help the real "low bottom drunks". But, after a few "trips" he found it less than desirable in helping drunks.

You might want to read Kurtz' book, because AA gave him permission to use their archives for his research on this book and there was no restrictions on what he would write.

guest : 2010-06-08 17:28:20
more park sausages Mom,PLEASE
selly. : 2010-03-09 15:22:03
all roads lead to
gavinbathgate. : 2010-03-01 18:05:22
Why is it im always too late to get the answers i always wanted, to find the keys to the 4 doors, but only got them slammed in my face.i took a bunch of acid 20yr ago, just prior to coming back to AA. I got 6 weeks totally clean and sober and had the awakening thats spoke about in the fellowship it was out of this world, i walked with god for weeks inside me and beside me i was the programme and the programme was me,all that stopped when i picked up the first joint, 11month later after cutting down meetings i had a drink ! after many more trips,booze and other mind altering chemicals,and countless failed AA tries,i am now 40yrs old and back in the fellowship 7-8 month sober and clean my first idea comming back was to go to amsterdam and smuggle a few hundred real trips and use them on a daily basis over one year to open my mind to god and the fellowship. i chose to rattle off of or call it cold turkey,i went it alone with only god and the fellowship to help me.i am so glad i did, for years i studied the occult and came very close to oppening the doors in king solomon's book, the lesser key of king solomon. if i had of took the the lsd to open my mind what else could i have opened, the doors of perception were already open would i have entered the dark realms of the spirit? i think so!so what i will do is just hand my will and my life over to the care of god as i understand him. love, light and peace and look forward to another sobber day, one day at a time. i am gavin i am a very gratefull alcaholic,thanks. ps sorry bout the spelling
12 Saratoga. : 2010-03-01 00:31:51
Die hard steppers commonly say, "I don't give a fu$% if Wilson did LSD!" This may in fact be the case. I have a problem with AA acting holier-than-thou and not being truthful about Wilson's shenanigans. He was dosed out once every other week for 2 1/2 years as AA's spokesperson. No doubt, Wilson had the strongest doses of LSD legally allowable. Yet, he is heralded as the guru of the recovery movment. Can't have it both ways. Wilson preached rigorous honesty, yet was a pathological philanderer. Either AA works because it's co-founder was/is time tested, or AA is plausably a farce because it promotes it's cofounder (as found in the Big Book) as somone who got perfectly well once he had his "religious" vision while on Bella Donna halluncinogenics (again!) at the hospital.
Old Leadfoot. : 2010-02-04 13:13:47
"LSD cannot replace working on ones self but it can offer a powerful window to the possibility of change witch many cannot see." - Guest -2-9-09

Of course, it isn't a replacement for "working on ones self". The miracle it offers is as a tool to help one discover ones self. That's when the "work" first begins!

oatstao. : 2010-01-29 06:17:46
i have never been into alcohol, it makes me sick and weird.
My father passed away from all sorts of side effects from over consumption of alcohol.
All I can contribute to this article is my experience and feelings about psychedelics. Mostly Psilocybin Mushrooms, and 8 trips of LSD.
They helped me remember integral morals, and possibly showed me new morals, it's hard to tell, but it basically showed me what I was doing wrong or disfunctional in my life. That even is down to drinking soda, eating bad meat, some social issues, repetetive habits, repressed feelings. It helped me cope and configure them, and I remember everything to this day for reflection. Alan Watts said something like this (on the level you don't have to keep taking psychedelics) "once you get the message, you can hang up the phone"
dude. : 2010-01-06 17:20:21
I took a lot of acid. Too many times to count. Shot a lot of smack, too much to add up. Shot a bunch of coke and meth. Smoked a ton of crack. AA works for me, hallucinogens didnt. There are different types of addicts, different paths to recovery. Letting go and turning it over are necessary in both recovery and tripping. turn off your mind relax and float downstream was my mantra in early 12 step recovery
Pedro. : 2010-01-04 17:43:24
I go to Aa meetings regularly and realising that i am powerless over alcohol has been my greatest discovery in life so far.
I have far too much to lose by attempting to embark on a social drinking/recreational drug use career.
This is pure logic for me and I am aware of research that says I may be able to do this sobel and sobel among many who claim that this would be possilble.
I work my own programme and it is of pure logic i dont do what is going to make me feel like shit and i try to do what is going to make me feel better over a long period.I try to work on my executive functions as I believe that this is where my problems lie.
I take with a pinch of salt the programme bangers who try to tell me how to live my life and quote bill W at every turn.The man was taking LSD for goodness sake when he had this spiritual awakening.We paddle our own canoes but get out to help those who are ploughing a lonely furrow.Best Wishes.X
BillM. : 2009-12-21 00:45:10
Whomever wrote this article, you are less than a fool. AA meetings are not full of frightened, needy drunks. They are full of healthy, confident humans recovering from the disease of alcoholism and addiction. Also wrong. The rooms are full of both.
tommyd. : 2009-12-18 04:38:11
After reading many of the postings, I question the true serenity and peace of a few of my fellow AA's. Specifically the FU and the other comments reflecting and impling others opinions are off based or condescending.
The goal of AA's are to overcome our dependence on alcohol, understand the true reasons we became alcoholic, fix those defects, and become wholly functioning members of society.
Ours is not to judge others, but to have love, patience, and tolerance for others.
I for one, cannot afford to get into an argument, use profanity, or bear resentful and hateful feelings towards others.
If I allow people, places, or things to impinge on my sobriety, then I am placing my life in perilous danger.
I also agree the acid in the 70's was mostly speed. I know I drank even more when tripping. The 60's 'cid was clean and did open some surprising doors. Alas I became a drunk, a sot, a wino, the old guy at the end of the bar huddled over my shot and beer chase.
Today I am clean and sober. I will not forget my past and every day I work the AA program found in the first 164 pages.
VIPelle. : 2009-11-25 08:57:29
Wilson's experiences with LSD and his enthusiasm for it as a possible cure for alcoholism are documented in the AA book Pass It On and in Susan Cheever's bio of Wilson. Since Wilson had his initial breakthrough after a strong dose of Town's remedy (chock full of belladonna) I propose it was psychedelically inspired.

stellabloo. : 2009-11-11 22:22:28
Bill W did indeed take LSD as explained in detail in the book Pass It On.
He took it in a controlled setting, a garden, there were experienced friends present and his wife dosed too.
He describes "seeing" a bush for the first time ever, noticing the detail right down to the fine pores on the leaves.
The interesting part - his wife who was a naturalist did not see plants any differently - she was already trained to notice the details.
LSD acts to shut down the normal controls of incoming sensory signals. Many of us are entirely self-absorbed and see only a fraction of what is really going on around us. This spiritual death occurs as the wide-eyed child grows into a good minion of the state - a perfect consumer rat.
And good consumer rats consume - alcohol.
Cesar. : 2009-10-05 07:34:24
Hola, soy miembro de AA desde 1991, quedo impresionado por las historias de Bill W., de que probo el lsd, de que era mujeriego, de que se plagio el libro azul, de que pidio una ultima copa antes de morir, de que murio millonario y tantas cosas, algunos articulos leidos de orange papers y otros, realmente me gustaria que me ayudaran a confirmar todo esto, que es verdad, que es mentira, lo cierto es que si hay algo que ver con la cuestion de la literatura y de que representa un jugoso negocio para lo que ahora se ha convertido en las oficinas mundiales de AA, ya que esta, hace todo lo imposible para evita que esta literatura sea editada sin la menor ganancia posible, los embates legales de estas oficinas se han hecho sentir en alemania y aqui con nosotros en mexico ya que yo milito en una seccion que se separo de una que tiene la autorizacion de dichas oficinas por ya no estar de acuerdo, por la forma en la que este movimiento se ha pervertido, esto me hace suponer que si hay una gran verdad, sobre las intenciones hipocritas de Bill W. para usar AA para beneficio personal, si hay aqui personas que me puedan dar paginas reales, veridicas, se los agredeceria mucho que me las hagan llegar a mi correo pegos10@hotmail.com
kevin. : 2009-10-01 22:21:51
Hey, I have a Scientific background in of all things pharmacology and toxicology and have been sober about 18 years. I hit my bottom when leaving the field. It is heresay but
the word was the Bill W. was given LSD in a clinical setting as
a possible cure for alcoholism. My experience is that all approaches to rcovery w/ the exception of some minor psycopharmacology administeed by a competant physician were
useless to me except the spiritual tools outlined in the 12 steps having been down the road with nutritional diet, excercise, yoga, church. If there would have been a way to stay sober
like most alcohics I would have found it before becoming one. In my opinion with more scientific information under my belt these days I am still
powerless over alcohol. I cannot breakdown, digest and metabolize alcohol like biochemicaly normal peaple.
Thank God for Alcoholics Anonomous. Sorry about how I spell.
Dave C.. : 2009-08-08 11:32:05
If I could have stayed sufficiently tripping at a steady clip, I'd never have needed alcohol again..... but alas, all psychoactive substances from weed to booze to heroin to meth to acid, have more negative aspects than positive in the big scheme of things. Sadly (sometimes) I think God meant for us to escape only occasionally, but for us to handle life on life's terms- clear headed. And some of us with the addictive tendencies are not afforded the luxury of "occasionally" escaping.
Carlos. : 2009-07-29 12:30:31
Well, I do not know about a cure, although I would not doubt it. Timothy Leary and believe if I remember correctly Richard Alpert (who later became Ram Dass) where Harvard Psychologist Studing and Investigating the use of LSD on Alcoholism and maybe other drugs too. I know that most psychodelic including LSD and Ibogain, are use, or being studied on the effect of other drug uses. I know for sure that on Ibogain Heroin addicts do not feel the withdrawl effects. NOW, when you mean cure are we talking about an alcoholic going back and drinking "normaly" without relapsing to overuse and abuse of alcohol again. Or do we mean that the persons will detox from alcohol and know that he will not drink again and he does not have to go to twocilion meeting in the rest of their life time? I believe that in the USA, LSD research has been discontinued after Dr. Leary and Dr. Alpert made asses of themselves and use it to drop out(It became a dangerous drug). I do know that research on Ibogain has continue and you will find a lot of information on the Internet about it.
aaaaaaa. : 2009-07-28 16:28:48
I have taken LSD probably close to 200 times as a youth.After many years sober and continually striving to improve my conscious contact and understanding of the bigger picture i become increasingly aware and grateful for the doors of perception that in my case,were opened.As far as ridiculing its possible benefits,perhaps contempt prior to investigation might require a closer look on ones part.AA is a way of life that works for someone like me but I believe anyone too caught up in thinking all the paths to get sober must be the same one are maybe a little too narrow-minded.If your not harming yourself or others and have a reasonable sense of peace and serenity,then be happy and don't overcomplicate it.Try to spend less time worrying about how others are doing it.Pomposity too,is a sin.
A AA. : 2009-07-23 06:05:10
I am not an expert on LSD (beyond taking probably over 50 times) or alcoholism (beyond being a drunk that has been sober in AA for over 25 years), but I can say that I truely doubt that a good LSD trip will cure anyone of alcoholism. I used to take LSD because it allowed me to stay awake and all night, whereas without it I would surely have blacked out and sooner or later passed out. But, I will say, the crap I was taking in the 70's probably had a lot more speed in it than the LSD-25 that Bill Wilson took. Having said that, my sobriety is based on being alcohol and drug free.
AA member . : 2009-06-29 13:27:05
fuck you and your vile comments about AA !! "needy , chainsmoking drunks " be dammed , AA has unreservedly given me the very best years of my life and I am tired of morons like you who can 't stand the fact some guys can quit drugs and be happy , get a life and make a difference in the world
Hammilton. : 2009-05-01 23:20:09
Some of you may know who I am.

LSD certainly seems to be effective with treating alcoholism, but you're right to mention the quality of the studies. There are good studies on this subject, and they indicate effectiveness. Better than 50%? I don't know about that; some of the poorer studies report success as being much higher than this, and the good studies show around a 50% efficacy rate. However, the definitions of efficacy aren't great. A modern study would likely find similar results, but we'd have a lot better idea knowing exactly what it found. I would not be surprised if a double blind study found that 80% were drug or alcohol free at three months, 65-70% by one year, and 50% by three years. After the three year mark the number of relapses drops significantly, but it's definitely not unheard of. Performing a study past the three year mark is generally impossible. It's hard enough to keep track of trial patients who have normal, steady and functioning lives; alcoholics often have other pathology or simply lack the skills needed to maintain a steady, functioning life. They tend to move around a lot and lose jobs even when they're not drinking. I wouldn't begin to suggest that this is the 'norm' but just that significant portion have these problems.

anonymous. : 2009-04-23 15:47:24
Lsd is something that is talked about among many people, and in fact being a full supporter of AA myself I think it should be more of a topic when it comes to the terms of sobriety and Bill W. I think if Bill would have stated these facts in present day AA he might have been mocked and put down for interfering with his own length of sobriety. I am a supporter of the concept that was put down so many years ago and that is we are here for alcoholics and this is our primary purpose. This doesn't mean go and destroy your body with other substance. This just means this could open a huge door for people to start looking into a truly great man and finding out what he may have been up to in his spare time... besides writing very good material. Bring it up a good discussion meeting sometime
atrixwolfe. : 2009-03-08 22:19:25
Whomever wrote this article, you are less than a fool. AA meetings are not full of frightened, needy drunks. They are full of healthy, confident humans recovering from the disease of alcoholism and addiction. Whether or not Bill Wilson took LSD matters not in the least, the main distinction being that when he took it he wasn't jepordizing his spirituality (ie he didn't think he was doing wrong by taking it) and since it is not a chemically addictive substance it didn't trigger a relapse into his addiction. When ignorant jackasses like yourself try to act like you know the first thing about alcoholism, addiction, recovery or any other concepts beyond your comprehension you end up looking both foolish and nasty. Making fun of alcoholics in recovery is like making fun of a diabetic for taking insulin. You've wasted enough of my time
guest : 2009-02-09 23:24:34
I have been sober this time for over 6 years. I have done LSD over 80 times in my life. I like to think LSD and myself parted friends. It is definitely not a "recreational experience" as it was introduced to me as a sacrament. I was pleased and felt some relief when I learned that Bill had "experienced" the temparary ego relief offered by LSD. I left with a new perspective. LSD cannot replace working on ones self but it can offer a powerful window to the possibility of change witch many cannot see.
aa member. : 2008-12-21 22:45:30
The steps of AA, at least in my personal belief, are an inspired means of leading the suffering alcholic from the depths and dregs of their personal dilemma and despair towards a path of personal recovery. This recovery happens in a twofold manner where both their addiction to alcohol and/or other mind affecting substances is removed and the driving force that compels them toward the release provided by an external influence is taken away. Where, precisely, the original inspiration or revelation for this came from is largely irrelevant. There are, however, two facts: One being that the twelve steps of AA seem to be the most highly effective path to recovery ever introduced which is particularly evidenced by the fact that those same steps have found their place into so many other recovery programs (CA, NA, GA, SA, OA, the list goes on) that the positive benefits of the life-changing aspects of the application of the program cannot be ignored. The other, and seldom discussed within the AA and "other-A" circles, is that LSD may, in fact, have played a part in this revelation and has, unfortunately, been largely dismissed as a positive influence in favor of 'alternate' and 'more socially acceptable theories'. It is sad that this has been the case and that what was accomplished as a result of the positive aspects of the influence of a potentially beneficial substance are only recently coming to light. Most of this, I am afraid, has come about as a result to the fears that exist within our government (and those who direct it) that an enlightened society is the most difficult to control. They would rather us be suppressed so, go ahead, take your Lunesta or whatever.

Think about it - Those in control don't want you to think but go ahead, do it anyway.

OK. : 2008-12-18 14:37:41
The article you reference has many oversights and falsehoods. For instance, when discussing Bill Wilson's revelation, the author writes:
"Then, on December 11th, 1934, after five years on the bum, something happened. No one, and especially not Wilson himself, was ever able to adequately articulate what occurred, but according to the standard tale it went something like this:

After repeatedly failing to get his drinking under control, Wilson, trembling on the brink of insanity, called up into the sky, “If there be a God, let Him show Himself now!” Suddenly, a warm bright light filled the room and Wilson found himself standing atop a mighty mountain. A wind came to him, surrounding his body and moving through it. With its departure, Wilson fell back into himself and never touched another drop of alcohol..."

While essentially true, the author leaves out one important, universally known fact: This episode occurred in a hospital, where Bill was being treated for alcoholism with belladonna, a hallucinogen, and it was while "tripping" that Bill had this revelatory episode.

Also from the article: "It’s never been entirely clear, however, how AA tallies sober members from the non-sober ones... [the numbers tallied of sober members] ultimately depend upon the truthfulness of information given by members of an organization who have been told that drinking is a source of deep personal shame."
Nowhere in AA, that I know of, are members told to be ashamed of their drinking. Nor, as the author implies, do members believe such a thing due to being told so by someone in AA. AA members aren't "tricked" into believing drinking is a source of shame. AA doesn't recruit, preach, reach out for members, or promote itself in any way. You have to seek it out. People seek out AA because, for them and them alone, alcohol has ruined their lives. It's not a judgment call, or a moral decision. It has nothing to do with "good" or "bad" -- some people are unable, once they have tasted a drop of alcohol, to stop drinking it until they pass out. It is impossible to have a beer for lunch with coworkers, because an alcoholic cannot detach from the beer and will just as likely stay behind to continue drinking. Once this has destroyed aspects of your life, it is not a matter of AA convincing you that alcohol is something to be ashamed of, it's quite beside the point.

thomson2008. : 2008-10-25 00:26:32
A life-long agnostic who sometimes espoused atheism, Wilson took pains to avoid terming the event supernatural. He likened it instead to a heat flash, as if he’d been visited by premature and off-gendered menopause.
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Precisely Recovered. : 2008-07-09 13:23:49
Agreed on the first point. There are no peer-reviewed studies performed and _independently replicated_ in a double-blind, placebo controlled protocol that show any treatment nearing 50% "effectiveness in combating alcoholism" ... notwithstanding an extremely loose operational definition & measurement of "combated alcoholism." These rigorous scientific standards are what validate a treatment's efficacy

That aside, the DSM-IV aids in diagnosing alcohol abuse and alcohol dependence. Alcoholism, a spiritual malady the central feature of which is self-centeredness run riot, is not a medical condition.

No opinion on the second :)

Knoss. : 2008-07-05 22:23:31
LSD has been shown to have a 60-75% effectiveness in combating alcoholism. Reasherchers in Weburn, Saskatchewan lead the use psycadelic drugs in adictions treatment, a study in Toronto, where subjects were tied up and blindfolded could not replicate the results, however this could be as the enviroment was not friendly.

LSD soon developed a bad reputation due to it's use as a recreatinal durg and was banned, but many people in the medical field belive further study is needed as well re-evaluating the use of LSD in addictions treatment.

aaa. : 2008-04-28 12:41:32
A Quick summeriztion of how to treat lsd
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